Comments on: Rails and Wired magazine http://www.nata2.org/2008/02/23/rails-and-wired-magazine/ Harper Reed: Software, PHP, MySQL, YoYo, Juggling, Baphomet Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:58:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6-beta2 By: Gil http://www.nata2.org/2008/02/23/rails-and-wired-magazine/#comment-66592 Gil Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:08:06 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2008/02/23/rails-and-wired-magazine/#comment-66592 Thanks for the plug :-) We do use PHP at Squidoo, but the framework is modelled after a Rails app. The architecture has allowed us to pull off some pretty crazy stunts (like ever.com) without major changes to the code base. PHP performance has been great...we're serving up 15m pageviews per month on only 3 commodity app servers. I'm working on a side project which was built in Rails, and even with barely any data (meaning db isnt the bottleneck) we had to purchase a $350 per month slice from engineyard just to get it fast enough for production use. Sheesh. Thanks for the plug :-)

We do use PHP at Squidoo, but the framework is modelled after a Rails app. The architecture has allowed us to pull off some pretty crazy stunts (like ever.com) without major changes to the code base. PHP performance has been great…we’re serving up 15m pageviews per month on only 3 commodity app servers.

I’m working on a side project which was built in Rails, and even with barely any data (meaning db isnt the bottleneck) we had to purchase a $350 per month slice from engineyard just to get it fast enough for production use. Sheesh.

]]> By: Harper http://www.nata2.org/2008/02/23/rails-and-wired-magazine/#comment-66553 Harper Mon, 25 Feb 2008 06:06:32 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2008/02/23/rails-and-wired-magazine/#comment-66553 I am glad its small. I couldn't remember what i said - so i was a bit worried. haha. and thus the preemptive blog entry. heh. I do agree with your experience with the Ruby community. They are like many of the obscure programming communities. At first, they seemed really excited to have people playing with them and in my experience this hasn't changed. They are still pretty chill and open to discussion. I never really thought about the fact that the rants are in fact mirroring each other. It really must be the koolaid that everyone is drinking. I do find myself drinking it as well - which is a bit annoying. That is a pretty intense post. Its an interesting twist to the story for sure. I am glad its small. I couldn’t remember what i said - so i was a bit worried. haha. and thus the preemptive blog entry. heh.

I do agree with your experience with the Ruby community. They are like many of the obscure programming communities. At first, they seemed really excited to have people playing with them and in my experience this hasn’t changed. They are still pretty chill and open to discussion.

I never really thought about the fact that the rants are in fact mirroring each other. It really must be the koolaid that everyone is drinking. I do find myself drinking it as well - which is a bit annoying.

That is a pretty intense post. Its an interesting twist to the story for sure.

]]> By: Ian Bicking http://www.nata2.org/2008/02/23/rails-and-wired-magazine/#comment-66530 Ian Bicking Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:36:54 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2008/02/23/rails-and-wired-magazine/#comment-66530 I grabbed the Wired that had just arrived and found your reference. Just a small sentence :( It's interesting that this doesn't seem to be true at all of the Ruby community, which has always come off to me as a fairly easy going and open to criticism. But then Ruby lingered in obscurity for a long time with this kind of attitude. Rails came out of the gate as aggressive and quite ready to insult competitors, and that's how it got attention and became big. If DHH was more like Matz, Rails would probably be yet another Nice Framework No One Heard Of. I guess it's not surprising that this set the tone for the community. I also get the impression (though on this I'm much more vague, and might be wrong) that it's not just the attitude that has spread throughout the community, but also the strategy itself -- in the Rails community seem to be full of people jockying for status. Zed's rant itself mirrors DHH's rants, though somewhat more epic and over the top than anything DHH has written. After the Ghetto post, someone noted this post which made me start thinking this: http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/2007/10/im-bad-im-nationwide-job-security-vs.html I grabbed the Wired that had just arrived and found your reference. Just a small sentence :(

It’s interesting that this doesn’t seem to be true at all of the Ruby community, which has always come off to me as a fairly easy going and open to criticism. But then Ruby lingered in obscurity for a long time with this kind of attitude. Rails came out of the gate as aggressive and quite ready to insult competitors, and that’s how it got attention and became big. If DHH was more like Matz, Rails would probably be yet another Nice Framework No One Heard Of. I guess it’s not surprising that this set the tone for the community. I also get the impression (though on this I’m much more vague, and might be wrong) that it’s not just the attitude that has spread throughout the community, but also the strategy itself — in the Rails community seem to be full of people jockying for status. Zed’s rant itself mirrors DHH’s rants, though somewhat more epic and over the top than anything DHH has written. After the Ghetto post, someone noted this post which made me start thinking this: http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/2007/10/im-bad-im-nationwide-job-security-vs.html

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