Comments on: Desktop Linux…. http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/ Harper Reed: Software, PHP, MySQL, XMPP, Hacking, Baphomet Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:16:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta3-9889 hourly 1 By: mh http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51247 mh Fri, 30 Nov 2007 21:43:09 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51247 Heh, back in the 90s you *had* to compile everything, especially if you were into the new software coming out, because 1. Package management sucked and only half-worked 2. Everything was changing so fast that new packages weren't released nearly often enough And yeah, slackware was the shit. The base system was what, eight floppies? Heh, back in the 90s you *had* to compile everything, especially if you were into the new software coming out, because
1. Package management sucked and only half-worked
2. Everything was changing so fast that new packages weren’t released nearly often enough

And yeah, slackware was the shit. The base system was what, eight floppies?

]]> By: Harper http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51132 Harper Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:10:12 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51132 Hi Jeff! Yea. i have used macports and fink on OSX before. It was awesome. But i always found myself dealing with weird path issues - or not finding something i was sure i had installed. It just wasn't as smooth. I have not installed apt on any other linux boxes - although i may start doing that to defeat the evil YUM. In regards to my success thus far - i am happy with it. But i have been working hard to get vmware working for a couple tasks that i require windows for. I will probably have to buy workstation again - because fucking vmware requires separate licenses for windows and linux. wth. its not like i can use my windows license when i have linux installed on my compy. I may attempt to use qemu Hi Jeff!

Yea. i have used macports and fink on OSX before. It was awesome. But i always found myself dealing with weird path issues - or not finding something i was sure i had installed. It just wasn’t as smooth.

I have not installed apt on any other linux boxes - although i may start doing that to defeat the evil YUM.

In regards to my success thus far - i am happy with it. But i have been working hard to get vmware working for a couple tasks that i require windows for. I will probably have to buy workstation again - because fucking vmware requires separate licenses for windows and linux. wth. its not like i can use my windows license when i have linux installed on my compy. I may attempt to use qemu

]]> By: Jeff Judge http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51130 Jeff Judge Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:06:05 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51130 I'm glad to hear your happy with Ubuntu...reading this post is exactly what I needed to push me to install it on my Thinkpad. I downloaded the iso sometime ago but haven't installed it yet. I agree that the Mac interface and applications are optimal, but am also annoyed in the tucking away of the underlying os. I've been using two laptops for a year now, a Thinkpad for documents and spreadsheets and a Powerbook for coding and everything else. I really just want a single machine that does both really well and think that the Mac is the 80% solution for now. Re: package managers, you can install apt on pretty much any Linux distro and use macports or fink on OSX, no? I’m glad to hear your happy with Ubuntu…reading this post is exactly what I needed to push me to install it on my Thinkpad. I downloaded the iso sometime ago but haven’t installed it yet.

I agree that the Mac interface and applications are optimal, but am also annoyed in the tucking away of the underlying os. I’ve been using two laptops for a year now, a Thinkpad for documents and spreadsheets and a Powerbook for coding and everything else. I really just want a single machine that does both really well and think that the Mac is the 80% solution for now.

Re: package managers, you can install apt on pretty much any Linux distro and use macports or fink on OSX, no?

]]> By: Suresh http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51064 Suresh Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:37:51 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51064 Sorry -- I meant Indiana might not be close to Ubuntu in terms of usability... as in package management and such. Interestingly, it was conceptualized by Ian Murdoch along with the community. Sorry — I meant Indiana might not be close to Ubuntu in terms of usability… as in package management and such. Interestingly, it was conceptualized by Ian Murdoch along with the community.

]]> By: Suresh http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51063 Suresh Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:34:38 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-51063 Ubuntu is awesome! I run both Ubuntu and Solaris on my laptop. Solaris is my prmiary development platform, quite understandably. Have you tried OpenSolaris yet? Give a shot at Indiana. It's not close to Indiana in terms of usability, but, with technology is far superior, and if you're a serious developer it should really get you interested. Two of the most important innovations to get integrated into Solaris: 1. DTrace - http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/dtrace/ 2. ZFS - http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/ No wonder, OSX Leopard has got these two features ported, DTrace for their XRay UI and ZFS for their Timemachine feature. Ubuntu is awesome!

I run both Ubuntu and Solaris on my laptop. Solaris is my prmiary development platform, quite understandably.

Have you tried OpenSolaris yet? Give a shot at Indiana. It’s not close to Indiana in terms of usability, but, with technology is far superior, and if you’re a serious developer it should really get you interested. Two of the most important innovations to get integrated into Solaris:

1. DTrace - http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/dtrace/
2. ZFS - http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/

No wonder, OSX Leopard has got these two features ported, DTrace for their XRay UI and ZFS for their Timemachine feature.

]]> By: Adrian Holovaty http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-50971 Adrian Holovaty Fri, 30 Nov 2007 03:21:37 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-50971 *Sniff sniff* -- I migrated to OS X a few months ago after several years of desktop Linux...and I miss it. The Debian/Ubuntu package management alone is worth the occasional having-to-futz-with-wifi shenanigans. *Sniff sniff* — I migrated to OS X a few months ago after several years of desktop Linux…and I miss it.

The Debian/Ubuntu package management alone is worth the occasional having-to-futz-with-wifi shenanigans.

]]> By: Jen http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-50917 Jen Thu, 29 Nov 2007 23:29:46 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-50917 Finally, someone believes in the "don't compile anything" opinion I have! Yay! Finally, someone believes in the “don’t compile anything” opinion I have! Yay!

]]> By: Matt Hellige http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-50826 Matt Hellige Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:54:10 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/11/29/desktop-linux/#comment-50826 Totally agree, except that I might be a little more favorably inclined toward OSX. I haven't done lots with it, but it seems like a pretty fair balance between Unix and prettiness/convenience. Honestly I kind of feel like this is basically the same place Ubuntu is headed. Before trying Ubuntu, I've used Slackware, RH, Debian, Gentoo, OSX (not to mention SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, HPUX, OSF/1, AIX, etc.). So I have a pretty good amount of Unix experience, and honestly I am SUPER impressed with Ubuntu on the desktop. Debian on the server and Ubuntu on the desktop is working really well for me right now. I rarely have to compile anything big, but THANK YOU to the 1990s for teaching me how to do it in a sane way and keep things manageable. :) I hope I never compile the Linux kernel again. Also I hope I never download anything onto 80 floppy disks ever again. Totally agree, except that I might be a little more favorably inclined toward OSX. I haven’t done lots with it, but it seems like a pretty fair balance between Unix and prettiness/convenience. Honestly I kind of feel like this is basically the same place Ubuntu is headed. Before trying Ubuntu, I’ve used Slackware, RH, Debian, Gentoo, OSX (not to mention SunOS, Solaris, IRIX, HPUX, OSF/1, AIX, etc.). So I have a pretty good amount of Unix experience, and honestly I am SUPER impressed with Ubuntu on the desktop. Debian on the server and Ubuntu on the desktop is working really well for me right now. I rarely have to compile anything big, but THANK YOU to the 1990s for teaching me how to do it in a sane way and keep things manageable. :)

I hope I never compile the Linux kernel again. Also I hope I never download anything onto 80 floppy disks ever again.

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