Comments on: Sicko. You need to see this movie. http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/ Harper Reed: Software, PHP, MySQL, XMPP, Hacking, Baphomet Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:09:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7-beta3-9889 hourly 1 By: Khummit Hatshepsitu http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-27329 Khummit Hatshepsitu Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:52:08 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-27329 I just saw the movie last night and I loved it. I liked the fact he took us to the different places where universal health care does work and we can have it here. I was especially touched when he took those firemen to Cuba and one of the medicines the woman needed was $125.00 here in the US and 5 cents there. Her tears are representative of a lot of US citizens who are elderly and have to choose medicine over food. On a personal note I don't have health insurance and I did hurt my foot from a fall. I tried to pain it out but couldn't. My husband took me to the emergency room they x-rayed my ankle-that bill was $39. which i paid, the doctor told me it was a sprain, she put my foot in a sprint, her bill was $338. the hospital bill was $1100.00 and we are talking about a total time span of 45 minutes for everything, because this was at 5 in the morning. The fall happened at midnight. You know we as Americans are working 8 hours because on May 1st, 1890 every worker in this country sat down, they shut the country down for 3 days. It began in Chicago, Workers of the world unite, May Day began there in Chicago. We can have universal health care we just have to demand it and not take no for an answer. I just saw the movie last night and I loved it. I liked the fact he took us to the different places where universal health care does work and we can have it here. I was especially touched when he took those firemen to Cuba and one of the medicines the woman needed was $125.00 here in the US and 5 cents there. Her tears are representative of a lot of US citizens who are elderly and have to choose medicine over food. On a personal note I don’t have health insurance and I did hurt my foot from a fall. I tried to pain it out but couldn’t. My husband took me to the emergency room they x-rayed my ankle-that bill was $39. which i paid, the doctor told me it was a sprain, she put my foot in a sprint, her bill was $338. the hospital bill was $1100.00 and we are talking about a total time span of 45 minutes for everything, because this was at 5 in the morning. The fall happened at midnight. You know we as Americans are working 8 hours because on May 1st, 1890 every worker in this country sat down, they shut the country down for 3 days. It began in Chicago, Workers of the world unite, May Day began there in Chicago. We can have universal health care we just have to demand it and not take no for an answer.

]]> By: Jeff Judge http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-26897 Jeff Judge Sun, 01 Jul 2007 18:45:33 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-26897 I saw the movie with my wife last night, and frankly I don't see what the other side of the argument could be. Here you have Moore perfectly laying out the health care system in Canada, the UK and France...all of which have universal health care at no cost to the citizens. Sure, their taxes are high, but are ours. I especially like how Michael Moore points out a lot of things that are socialized in our society that I've never really thought about: libraries, the police, firefighters, public schools. I saw the movie with my wife last night, and frankly I don’t see what the other side of the argument could be. Here you have Moore perfectly laying out the health care system in Canada, the UK and France…all of which have universal health care at no cost to the citizens. Sure, their taxes are high, but are ours. I especially like how Michael Moore points out a lot of things that are socialized in our society that I’ve never really thought about: libraries, the police, firefighters, public schools.

]]> By: Ryan Kanno http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-26367 Ryan Kanno Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:57:07 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-26367 I had the pleasure of watching this movie and I must admit... the more movies I watch of his, the more I love Michael Moore. Sure, he's a sensationalist and portrays a completely one-sided view of a topic, but how is that any different from any other content source? Not to mention, he portrays it in a matter that provokes conversations and discussions. Regardless of how it's portrayed, it's quite painfully obvious that if you've helped at Ground Zero and you've suddenly found yourself with unaffordable health care costs - there's a problem with our system... or perhaps just the administration of the system itself, i.e. in different hands, the system can succeed. I just went on Google finance and tracked these corporations like Aetna, Humana, etc against the S&P and it's pretty ridiculous. Something must be said if they're profiteering on death. I had the pleasure of watching this movie and I must admit… the more movies I watch of his, the more I love Michael Moore. Sure, he’s a sensationalist and portrays a completely one-sided view of a topic, but how is that any different from any other content source? Not to mention, he portrays it in a matter that provokes conversations and discussions.

Regardless of how it’s portrayed, it’s quite painfully obvious that if you’ve helped at Ground Zero and you’ve suddenly found yourself with unaffordable health care costs - there’s a problem with our system… or perhaps just the administration of the system itself, i.e. in different hands, the system can succeed. I just went on Google finance and tracked these corporations like Aetna, Humana, etc against the S&P and it’s pretty ridiculous. Something must be said if they’re profiteering on death.

]]> By: dylan http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25751 dylan Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:44:55 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25751 I guess that if you want to get a view of how the health care system screws over the average american and doesn't have a soul about it let me explain to you how it works: At the time this happened both my wife and I where working forty hours a week. Sarah got sick, really sick, what she has isn't important just know that she went to the hospital for a week twice in a year as well as having to go see a specialist 60 miles away. The insurance that we had at the time was average, not super fancy but co-pays where ok, deductible was ok. After that year we had around $20,000+ in hospital debt that we in no way could afford. So we applied for financial aid to help us. We where denied. Flat out denied, because we both had jobs and insurance. Plus it turns out that the aid that we where able to apply for would have been a one time payment of $100.........thats it. On top of that we still have all of the prescriptions, one of which isn't covered by any insurance. That drug alone is $350 a month. So, yes Michael Moore may be a hater on the government, however I agree with him. Sure health care may suck in other countries, however I don't live in those other countries. I live here and if this movie gets enough people to push for health care reform I will be happy. I pisses me off that my wife could get better, free health care if she made a car bomb and tried to blow up a building or just threatened to do so. I guess that if you want to get a view of how the health care system screws over the average american and doesn’t have a soul about it let me explain to you how it works:

At the time this happened both my wife and I where working forty hours a week. Sarah got sick, really sick, what she has isn’t important just know that she went to the hospital for a week twice in a year as well as having to go see a specialist 60 miles away.

The insurance that we had at the time was average, not super fancy but co-pays where ok, deductible was ok. After that year we had around $20,000+ in hospital debt that we in no way could afford. So we applied for financial aid to help us.

We where denied. Flat out denied, because we both had jobs and insurance. Plus it turns out that the aid that we where able to apply for would have been a one time payment of $100………thats it.

On top of that we still have all of the prescriptions, one of which isn’t covered by any insurance. That drug alone is $350 a month.

So, yes Michael Moore may be a hater on the government, however I agree with him. Sure health care may suck in other countries, however I don’t live in those other countries. I live here and if this movie gets enough people to push for health care reform I will be happy.

I pisses me off that my wife could get better, free health care if she made a car bomb and tried to blow up a building or just threatened to do so.

]]> By: Josh http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25613 Josh Thu, 21 Jun 2007 20:03:47 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25613 Yeah, the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay... it's their weird double edge sword. If they did not have fantastic health care then Michael Moore would be making a move about how treatment of the prisoners there is barbaric. To me the movie did not present any sort of balanced opinion. It was black and white, socialized rules and privatized sucks. There must be plenty of stories from Canada and beyond about how their health care failed them but he didn't even present that as an option. -Josh Yeah, the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay… it’s their weird double edge sword. If they did not have fantastic health care then Michael Moore would be making a move about how treatment of the prisoners there is barbaric.
To me the movie did not present any sort of balanced opinion. It was black and white, socialized rules and privatized sucks. There must be plenty of stories from Canada and beyond about how their health care failed them but he didn’t even present that as an option.

-Josh

]]> By: Harper http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25601 Harper Thu, 21 Jun 2007 15:21:05 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25601 Ayn Rand eh.. I really don't think that idealism based around a utopian world is where you should be baseing your critique of sicko ;). If you haven't noticed - we don't really live in the world that Rand's books are based in. We have people here, not robots. The commenter on your site was right - even communism worked on paper. In regards to sicko - I liked it. I felt that Moore wasn't saying that socialized medicine wouldn't work here. It seemed to me that he was saying that it would work - but our leaders are too in with the huge conglomerates to think about socializing the medicine. But regardless of what you thought about Moore and sicko - didn't it seem really strange that the prisoners in cuba are allowed to have great health care - whereas our friends who can't afford it are not allowed to have great health care? Ayn Rand eh.. I really don’t think that idealism based around a utopian world is where you should be baseing your critique of sicko ;). If you haven’t noticed - we don’t really live in the world that Rand’s books are based in. We have people here, not robots. The commenter on your site was right - even communism worked on paper.

In regards to sicko - I liked it. I felt that Moore wasn’t saying that socialized medicine wouldn’t work here. It seemed to me that he was saying that it would work - but our leaders are too in with the huge conglomerates to think about socializing the medicine.

But regardless of what you thought about Moore and sicko - didn’t it seem really strange that the prisoners in cuba are allowed to have great health care - whereas our friends who can’t afford it are not allowed to have great health care?

]]> By: Josh http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25509 Josh Wed, 20 Jun 2007 19:41:39 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25509 This is what I wrote about the movie after I saw it last night. http://www.schalicto.com/2007/06/20/michael-moore-hates-america.html It does expose a lot of crap in health care and politics but most of the movie was a complete waste of my time. He seems to be saying in the movie "Health Care in the US sucks because our government sucks and socialized medicine probably wouldn't work here anyway". This is what I wrote about the movie after I saw it last night.
http://www.schalicto.com/2007/06/20/michael-moore-hates-america.html

It does expose a lot of crap in health care and politics but most of the movie was a complete waste of my time.

He seems to be saying in the movie “Health Care in the US sucks because our government sucks and socialized medicine probably wouldn’t work here anyway”.

]]> By: dylan http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25490 dylan Wed, 20 Jun 2007 11:06:14 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25490 Robyn, Know what you mean. <a href="http://www.photodork.org" rel="nofollow">Sarah</a> has been throught the healthcare ringer and we are still getting screwed. We even got charged for an IV that they didn't open or use they just went and got it from the supply closet. It was still in its sterile package when we left the emergency room. Hospitals are bastards Robyn, Know what you mean. Sarah has been throught the healthcare ringer and we are still getting screwed.

We even got charged for an IV that they didn’t open or use they just went and got it from the supply closet. It was still in its sterile package when we left the emergency room.

Hospitals are bastards

]]> By: derek http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25485 derek Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:33:01 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25485 i think that health care should be really cheap and or free because i am totally comfortable with cheap hospital equipment being responsible for my life... i think that health care should be really cheap and or free because i am totally comfortable with cheap hospital equipment being responsible for my life…

]]> By: chriskalani http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25414 chriskalani Wed, 20 Jun 2007 02:31:46 +0000 http://www.nata2.org/2007/06/20/sicko-you-need-to-see-this-movie/#comment-25414 It's cool how he WANTS people to download it. Finally someone who realizes that you will get more views and more discussion when you just open it up and let people enjoy it as it was intended. Michael Moore isn't really my favorite person but he is trying to make a difference and that is cool. It’s cool how he WANTS people to download it. Finally someone who realizes that you will get more views and more discussion when you just open it up and let people enjoy it as it was intended. Michael Moore isn’t really my favorite person but he is trying to make a difference and that is cool.

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