09 Feb
Posted by Harper as General at 10:54 PM
Tags: 2.0, 37signals, awesome, bot, campfire, chat, hacking, harper, irc, web
So i was playing around with campfire and i noticed that i could easy write a bot for it. so i did. it sucks. but it shows what you could do. how i love www mechanize. and perl. check it out:
http://nata2.info/?path=code%2Fcampfire_bot_hack
Oh yea. campfire is sweet. the 37signals guys did a great job. although i am a bit worried about how you can spoof the message post url in a tinurl and make anyone who clicks on it say whatever you want them to say ;) but that is naturally a weakness in a webchat.. especially with ajax.
here is the speak url;
/room/44/speak?message=message+here
if someone goes to that while in room 44 they will say “message here”
heh.
6 Responses
Jack Shedd
February 17th, 2006 at 9:46 pm
1It should be pretty easy to secure the posting using server sessions, wouldn’t it?
cocolo
February 25th, 2006 at 10:07 am
2You’re so cool !
But I think I prefer the 37 Signal guys.
You say you’re app doesn’t do anything. It could but the only thing it could do is harm. Really, you are so powerful ! Thanks for the community that needed another one like you.
nata2
February 25th, 2006 at 5:05 pm
3Yea.. the 37signals guys are pretty cool. I like their stuff.
Well. I guess i feel that if a webapp has some exploits and the people who created the webapp are not interested in listening to problems with it - then those problems should be released. Not to exploit the webapp - but to make sure that developers see how security vulnerabilities happen and how they exist. This should and will allow people to develop better applications. EVEN the 37signals guys.. OMG.
And it is obviously not about power. but you are right.. it is about being cool.
And.. i DO think that the community needs more people interested in talking about PROBLEMS and security issues within web applications. Especially if applications are targetted towards businesses and what not.
Security through obscurity is not security.
youpy
February 26th, 2006 at 8:13 am
4Here’s another campfire bot (greasemonkey script).
http://www.bigbold.com/snippets/posts/show/1517
nata2
February 26th, 2006 at 10:46 pm
5Nice work..
Mark Coates
October 24th, 2006 at 12:57 pm
6The only way that we can grow these apps together is through pushing the limits, like Harper has done. nata2 is right, too:
“Security through obscurity is not security.”
At least 37signals are being transparent, sharing the API and seem at least willing to acknowledge limitations and holes.
We recently wrote a bot mod for Campfire, too. Check it out. Keep posting!
Be sure and take a gander at my photos.
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